[Note: When I sent out an e-mail concerning geocentricity (see end of this page), I received a pretty hostile response from professing Bible believers though a handful were already aware of geocentrism. A gentle reader, Chris, submitted the following information written by Malcom Bowden.]
THE BASIC SCIENTIFIC ARGUMENTS
FOR GEOCENTRICITYMalcolm Bowden
This subject generates far more heat than light in Christian circles. Invariably the reaction is emotional because Christians do not want to be tainted with the labels of "scientific ignoramus" and such like. I here set out the basic arguments that are given more fully in my "True Science Agrees with the Bible" - Appendix 10.
(1) BIBLICAL SUPPORT. There are many references to the sun "going down", "arising" etc. NOT ONCE does the Bible ever refer to the earth rotating. Those who say that the Bible is only recording the "appearance" of the movement of the sun
(a) are having to ADD to the most obvious meaning of the understanding of the Bible passage and
(b) are adopting the same position as liberal critics who have tried to destroy the Bible by saying that many of the sayings of Christ were "adapted to the simple understanding and low education of His hearers" and that we are more educated today to correct what he said - or such like. The Bible is true in its normal sensible understanding of its statements. We say sensible because we do not literally interpret what are clearly allegories and metaphors - this is usually used by critics to ridicule Bible believers.
(2) THE SEQUENCE OF CREATION. There is a major Biblical problem facing Christian heliocentrists. The sun is not referred to until Day 4. Most contend that it was created on Day 1 but only became visible on Day 4 so that they can have the earth going round the sun from the very first day of its creation. The problem is that the same word is used for the creation of the sun as for other material or animals in Genesis 1. "Bara" and "Asah" are both used for creation and there is no distinction between creation from nothing and creation from previous created material. Both words are used of Man's creation. To say that the sun had already been created before day 4 is to twist the scriptures beyond acceptability in this one specific case to save the heliocentric position - and Hebrew scholars agree. If this interpretation is used in this one instance, why is it not used for all the other verses in Genesis. It would make nonsense of the whole record of events.
So the Hebrew insists that the sun was created on Day 4. How then did the earth rotate around a non-existent sun for three days? And when the sun was created on Day 4, did God give the earth a jolt and send it on its circular route around the sun? Surely the most obvious explanation is that the earth was created FIRST of all the universe - as the Bible says - and the universe rotated around it - with all the planets created later on Day 4. How this could take place scientifically we examine below.
(3) SCIENTIFIC EXPERIMENTS. Most scientists know about the Michelson-Morely experiment - that failed to detect any movement of the earth round the sun. This had to be overcome so the Fitzgerald-Lorentz shortening of the apparatus was proposed, and eventually the paradoxical Relativity Theory was invented by Einstein to overcome this problem. However, there are three other experiments that have been deliberately ignored by universities because they support geocentricity -
(a) The Michelson-Gale experiment (Reference - Astrophysical Journal 1925 v 61 pp 140-5 - I forgot to put this reference in my book!) This detected the aether passing the surface of the earth with an accuracy of 2% of the speed of the daily rotation of the earth! Thus, the Michelson-Morely experiment detected no movement of the earth around the sun, yet the Michelson-Gale experiment measured the earth's rotation (or the aether's rotation around the earth!) to within 2%! This surely speaks volumes for geocentricity.
(b) "Airey's failure" (Reference - Proc. Roy. Soc. London v 20 p 35). Telescopes have to be very slightly tilted to get the starlight going down the axis of the tube because of the earth's "speed around the sun". Airey filled a telescope with water that greatly slowed down the speed of the light inside the telescope and found that he did not have to change the angle of the telescope. This showed that the starlight was already coming in at the correct angle so that no change was needed. This demonstrated that it was the stars moving relative to a stationary earth and not the fast orbiting earth moving relative to the comparatively stationary stars. If it was the telescope moving he would have had to change the angle.
(c) The Sagnac experiment (Reference - Comptes Rendus 1913 v157 p 708-710 and 1410-3) Sagnac rotated a table complete with light and mirrors with the light being passed in opposite directions around the table between the mirrors. He detected the movement of the table by the movement of the interference fringes on the target where they were recombined. This proved that there IS an aether that the light has to pass through and this completely destroys Einstein's theory of Relativity that says there is no aether. It is for this reason that this experiment is completely ignored by scientists. More recently Kantor has found the same result with similar apparatus.
All these experiments are never taught at universities, so consequently, scientists, including most Christian creationists, are ignorant of this evidence for geocentricity. Is it any wonder, therefore, that Christian geocentrists find their most vociferous opponents are fellow Christian creationists to whom geocentricity comes as a shock. They do not want to be tarred with such a heretical brush that will only increase the great ridicule they are already receiving for their stance against evolution?THE ROTATION OF THE UNIVERSE
How can the universe rotate so rapidly without disintegrating? There is growing evidence that the aether has "Planck density" - it is extremely dense and the sun and planets are like corks in very dense water comparatively. This whole universe sweeps round the earth because otherwise it would collapse in on itself due to its density. The mechanics of this system forces the other planets etc. to describe ellipses in their orbit around the sun. Ernst Mach proposed that it is the weight of the stars circling the earth that drags Foucault pendulums around, creates Coriolis forces in the air that give the cyclones to our weather etc. Barbour and Bertotti (Il Nuovo Cimento 32B(1):1-27, 11 March 1977) proved that a hollow sphere (the universe) rotating around a solid sphere inside (the earth) produced exactly the same results of Coriolis forces, dragging of Foucault pendulums etc. that are put forward as "proofs" of heliocentricity! This paper gives several other confirmations of the superiority of the geocentric model.
Thus, there is evidence that the earth is NOT moving around the sun, but either the aether is moving around the earth carrying the planets with it, or the earth is spinning on its axis. The most likely model is that the aether is rotating around the earth as calculations show that if it did not, it would rapidly collapse upon itself.
Malcolm Bowden.
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Note: I (tracy) haven’t read Mr. Bowden’s book, but Chris has this to say:
This book is really good and goes into things that we are not normally told. For example the theory of relativity was promoted partly because of the inability of experiments to prove that the earth moved. Bowden also notes that to hold a geocentric position is to open oneself up to abuse even from creationists who will think that you are discrediting the whole argument.
The other thing that he discusses which is fascinating is the idea that the speed of light may not be a constant, but may have slowed down over the last 6000 years or so since creation which would explain a lot of the facts that scientists throw our way.
The following is the e-mail I sent out to my e-mail list. After the responses to this e-mail I came up with a new title for myself, “A fool for Christ’s sake”. I’ll be a fool for truth’s sake. As Isaiah says, “truth is fallen in the street.” I won’t pass it by, I’ll pick it up and embrace it regardless of the costs.
[Reminder: this list is for Bible-believing Christians.]
Dear Friends:
Greetings in the name of the ONLY wise God and Saviour Jesus Christ.
A brother recently wrote asking me about geocentricity. I just learnedabout it myself last year...
***What is geocentricity?***
Simply put, geocentricity says the earth is the center of the universe,not the sun. The sun revolves around the earth, not the earth around thesun. I know that you did not learn this in public school, but this iswhat the Bible teaches. Please read on.
***What do you know about this, Tracy?***
I learned about geocentricity last year at the King James Bibleconference. Dr. Gerardus Bouw, a Bible-believing astronomer told usattendees all about it. I'm going to break it down for you the way Dr.Bouw broke it down for us...
***Dear Reader, do you believe EVERYTHING the Bible says?
Assuming the answer to this question is yes, let me ask you some questionsfrom some scriptures--
1. In Joshua 10:13, the children of Israel are avenging themselves ontheir enemies. The Bible says that THE SUN STOOD STILL and hasted not toGO DOWN about a whole day.
Friends, according to our science text books, the sun does NOT go down,theearth turns. So in this case, is the Bible wrong when it implies that thesun GOES DOWN?
2. Isaiah 38:8 says THE SUN RETURNED ten degrees by which degrees it wasGONE DOWN.
In this case, did the sun really GO BACK ten degrees or was the shadow onthe sun dial just an optical illusion?
3. This one is a showstopper. It comes from Malachi 4 the last chapterof the Old Testament. It would be about 400 years before God spoke toIsrael through John the Baptist. Malachi 4:2
"But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness ARISE withhealing in his wings..."
Look at this again. Notice how "Sun" has a capital "S". This obviouslyrefers to Jesus. He did ARISE with healing in his wings. Notice how itdoes not say "Son", it says, "Sun". If the "sun" DOES NOT rise, does thismean that THE SON did not rise? Is all of it an illusion? Of course, not.
***What does all this mean?***
It means that once again we've been lied to. Ever heard of the"Copernican revolution?" Copernicus is the guy who came up with the"heliocentric" model that we use today--the idea that the earth revolvesaround the sun.
There's lots of interesting information concerned with the false scienceassociated with the heliocentric model. But it will have to be reservedfor another time, Lord willing.
In the mean time you can check out www.biblicalastronomer.org. Dr.Bouw who uses a modified Tychonic model to explain how the solar system works.
Just like with evolution, there are many things that cannot be explainedwith the heliocentric model. I'll warn you that this area of astronomycan get quite technical and mathematical. I'm no expert so if you needformualas, etc. you need to order some books from Dr. Bouw.
I recently heard someone say, "Science blew away western religion." [When people say things like this they are oftentimes talking about heliocentricism and evolution.] Thisis how many look at the Copernican revolution with it's heliocentricmodel. This is how the Encyclopedia Americana looks at it too--
"This sharp separation between heaven and earth was basic in the view ofthe universe that was accepted by Copernicus' contemporaries. Copernicuscomprehended the TRUE nature of the earth. He fully understood that it isa planet revolving about the sun, in the company of other planets.Therefore, like its fellow planets, it too is a heavenly body. Since theearth itself is in the heavens, the contrast between heaven and earthVANISHED, being REPLACED BY THE MODERN CONCEPT OF SPACE."What does Genesis 1:1 say? In the beginning God created the HEAVEN ANDTHE EARTH. The encyclopedia says this distinction VANISHED withCopernicus. See what I mean?
The Encyclopedia Americana goes on to say in no uncertain terms thatgeocentric model was an error. In other words, the Bible is in error.
My friends, I know this is a radical concept but don't believe everythingscience tells you. They make a liar out of God! With the Copernicanrevolution all of a sudden not only did the Bible lose its authority inscience but in morals and other areas as well. It was, and is, lookedupon as unreliable.
I am looking at a magazine ad right now (a free magazine from the grocerystore with recipes). It has on it, a picture of the solar system with thecaption, "The Geocentric System" (earth at the center). It says,
"Five hundred years ago, the sun was thought to revolve around the earth.People DID NOT KNOW then what we know now. Truths change."No they don't. TRUTH NEVER CHANGES. Truth is absolute. God knew exactlywhat He was saying when He told us the sun arises and goes down. This adwas by the Office of National Drug Control Policy. In this ad, they sayGod is ignorant. The Lord gave me this ad maybe one or two days after thatbrother asked me about geocentricity.
There was a gentleman named Sir Fred Hoyle. He was knighted for hiscosmological and astronomical prowess. He said this--
"We know that the difference between a heliocentric theory and ageocentric theory is one of relative motion only, and that such adifference has NO physical significance."The geocentric model is not unscientific, it is correct. Unsurprisingly, [it]explains many of the phenomena that heliocentricists can't figure out.
Here are dozens of verses that say that the sun moves. Do you [really] believe theBible?
Genesis15:12 And when the sun was GOING DOWN...15:17 ...the sun WENT DOWN...19:23 The sun was RISEN UPON THE EARTH...28:11 ...the sun was SET...32:31 ...the sun ROSE upon him
Exodus22:3 If the sun be RISEN upon him...22:26 ...the sun goeth DOWN:
Leviticus22:7 And when the sun is DOWN...
Numbers2:3 And on the east side toward the RISING of the sun
Deuteronomy11:30 ...by the way where the sun goeth DOWN23:11 ...when the sun is DOWN...24:13 ...when the sun GOETH DOWN...24:15 At his day thou shalt give him his hire, neither shall the sun goDOWN upon it...
Joshua8:29 ...as soon as the sun was DOWN...10:13 And the sun STOOD STILL, and the moon stayed...So the sun STOODSTILL in the midst of heaven, and HASTED NOT TO GO DOWN about a whole day.
Judges5:31 ...but let them that love him be as the sun when he GOETH FORTH inhis might.8:13 And Gideon the son of Joash returned from battle before the sun wasUP,9:33 And it shall be, that in the morning, as soon as the sun is UP..14:18 And the men of the city said unto him on the seventh day beforethe sun WENT DOWN...19:14 ...the sun went down upon them
2 Samuel2:24 ...the sun WENT DOWN...3:35 ...till the sun be DOWN.23:4 ...when the SUN RISETH...
2 Chronicles18:34 the time of the sun GOING DOWN he died.
Psalms50:1 ...RISING of the sun unto the GOING DOWN thereof.104:19 He appointed the moon for seasons: the sun knoweth his GOING DOWN.104:22 The sun ARISETH...113:3 From the RISING of the sun unto THE GOING DOWN of the same theLORD's name is to be praised.
Ecclesiastes1:5 The sun also ARISETH, and the sun GOETH DOWN, and HASTETH to hisplace where he AROSE.
Isaiah38:8 ...So the sun RETURNED ten degrees,by which degrees it was GONEDOWN.41:25 from the RISING of the sun60:20 Thy sun shall no more GO DOWN; neither shall thy moon withdrawitself...
Jeremiah15:9 her sun is GONE DOWN...
Daniel6:14 ...he laboured till the GOING DOWN of the sun to deliver him.
Amos8:9 I will cause the sun TO GO DOWN at noon...
Jonah4:8 And it came to pass, when the sun did ARISE...
Micah3:6 the sun shall GO DOWN over the prophets...
Nahum3:17 ...when the sun ARISETH...
Habakkuk3:11 The sun and moon STOOD STILL in their habitation...
Malachi1:11 For from the RISING of the sun even unto the GOING DOWN of the same4:2 But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness ARISE
Matthew 5:45 ...he maketh his sun to RISE...
Mark 1:32 And at even, when the sun did SET...
Luke 4:40 Now when the sun was SETTING...
Ephesians 4:26 Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun GO DOWN uponyour wrath:
James 1:11 For the sun is no sooner RISEN...
***Conclusion***
Dear friend, pray about it. Question EVERYTHING the wicked worldtells you.
for Jesus' sake,
sis. tracy
--
...I do send thee unto them; and thou shalt say unto them,Thus saith the Lord GOD. And thou, son of man, be not afraid of them,neither be afraid of their words, though briers and thorns be with thee,and thou dost dwell among scorpions: be not afraid of their words,nor be dismayed at their looks, though they be a rebellious house.Ezekiel 2:4, 6